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1.5 EVO - 1st gear kangaroo

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As a foreword I'm going to say I love my TROC, it's one of the best driving cars i've ever had. However is it just me or do other 1.5 EVO drivers find the TROC can kangaroo a bit in 1st gear if you don't time the clutch and accelerator perfectly?

Never had this problem with any other car and I drive a lot of different cars. Any suggestions would be welcomed.
 
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twist said:
Clubchamp98 said:
Mine is a June 2018 model and I have noticed the last few weeks it has started to do this.
It's very minor and unless your looking for it you wouldn't notice.
Maybe the DSG gearbox hides it but I have noticed and look for it now.
I have traded it in for a Golf 8 in March .
It's a long line of things I just don't like about the car.
Mainly the stop start it is just crap.
You know the Golf 8 has stop start too right? I would wager it works exactly the same way as well. Unless you've experienced it and it's somehow different?

Also the DSG doesn't hide it really - well my DSG didn't anyway. I think it's more to do with how you use the throttle. My experience is I f you don't give enough gas at low speeds it seems to happen more often. There are obviously more variables but I think that's one of the key ones.
Yes but I just turn it off anyway.
But why have a system the driver can't control that's not to much to ask for imo.

Guy I play golf with works for a main dealer he offered me a deal I just can't say no to.
The roc is a really nice comfortable car and I might buy another in a few years.
 
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Bellasdad said:
Just to resurrect this Dodo of a thread with a simple question.
What has happened to all the rejected kangarooing T rocs and why isn't this forum full of second hand owners complaining about the problem?
Has VW waved a magic wand and made it all just disappear?
I'm genuinely interested to know what has happened with this issue, it was such a big problem for so many owners back in the day and attracted a few colourful characters to join in the sometimes heated debate.
The good old days, happy times :mrgreen:
If I were a Dealer, I'd simply resell a dud on an 'as seen' basis. A quick polish and these cars would effectively be brand new with low mileage. When the roo is noted on a test run, a clinch-the-deal financial incentive could be offered to buyer.

People will put up with stuff if they can save a few bob. A new car owner, on the other hand, paid full price for a faulty product.

Dealer gets rid of a dud. VW don't have the headache of returned cars. No magic wand needed.
 
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Deleted user 925 said:
I haven't done much driving since I had my software update to see if it worked but then again mine was never that bad and I could have lived with it anyway &#x1f937-2642;
So the software update 100% didn't work, at least in the warm/hot weather &#x1f937-2642;
I'm having a very noticeable kangaroo everyday for the first half mile I drive my car, basically when I start off and taking off at the first set of traffic lights.
Funnily enough it's only when I'm coming home from work & not in the morning when it's cooler 🤔

I think my job change and route may have highlighted it more I.e not a straight run for a couple of miles for the engine to warm up?
 
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Deleted user 925 said:
Deleted user 925 said:
I haven't done much driving since I had my software update to see if it worked but then again mine was never that bad and I could have lived with it anyway &#x1f937-2642;
So the software update 100% didn't work, at least in the warm/hot weather &#x1f937-2642;
I'm having a very noticeable kangaroo everyday for the first half mile I drive my car, basically when I start off and taking off at the first set of traffic lights.
Funnily enough it's only when I'm coming home from work & not in the morning when it's cooler 🤔

I think my job change and route may have highlighted it more I.e not a straight run for a couple of miles for the engine to warm up?
Weird eh? They claim it was on a "cold" start. I know they mean "cold start" in the literal sense of the engine oil temperature and not entirely the ambient temperature but still: you'd think high ambient heat would help, rather than hinder the issue.

My MY2020 is still a bit "excitable" during cold start but so far it has not lurched into full kangaroo territory yet (and fingers crossed it stays that way as I will lose my mind if it gets as bad as the first car).
 
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I have a MY21, 1.5 manual. If I start the car and drive, it lurches in 1st and second gear until it has warmed up a bit.

I have found that no matter what the ambient temperature after starting the engine it idles at ~1400 rpm for a while, then drops to ~1200 rpm before dropping to what I would consider a normal idle of ~800 rpm - it takes about 1 minute to drop to this normal idle. If I wait for the revs to settle to 800 rpm the car drives fine.

I've never had a car behave this way before and I shouldn't have to sit idling until the car is drivable. My wife has a Citigo and that drives fine even when running on the "choke", I assume that the mapping is different in the T-ROC (to heat the cat up as quickly as possible) to meet the ridiculously strict emissions standards from the EU.
 
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NGr said:
I have a MY21, 1.5 manual. If I start the car and drive, it lurches in 1st and second gear until it has warmed up a bit.

I have found that no matter what the ambient temperature after starting the engine it idles at ~1400 rpm for a while, then drops to ~1200 rpm before dropping to what I would consider a normal idle of ~800 rpm - it takes about 1 minute to drop to this normal idle. If I wait for the revs to settle to 800 rpm the car drives fine.

I've never had a car behave this way before and I shouldn't have to sit idling until the car is drivable. My wife has a Citigo and that drives fine even when running on the "choke", I assume that the mapping is different in the T-ROC (to heat the cat up as quickly as possible) to meet the ridiculously strict emissions standards from the EU.
Yeah that sounds like the kangaroo alright.
Even the latest 1.5's have it &#x1f937-2642;🙈
 
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If they messed with the fuel/air mixture ratios, then there will be different mappings covering a mix of ambient air temperatures vs engine temperature. So a 'cold' start on a warm afternoon needs different mixture from a 'cold' start on a frosty winter morning. Obviously there needs to be some balance between the extremes and it could be that fixing a problem at one end of the spectrum makes matters worse at the other end.
 
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VW said it hasn't found anything, I'm thinking whether its how I use the clutch, I have a bit of a heavy foot. had a polo 2001 model and its clutch was pretty light when so I used to almost release it before I press the gas. It might just be muscle memory, will be getting it back from the service hopefully today.

VW are reinstalling the ECU software for it, so I will find out.
 
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dwardu said:
VW are reinstalling the ECU software for it, so I will find out.
A few people have had the software update and it made no difference, myself included.

The kangaroo gives you a similar impression of when we were first learning to drive. &#x1f937-2642;
 
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This may well be the same or similar symptoms but could be due to any one of a number of possible faults. There have been no verified occurrences of the Kangaroo issue for a very long time.

Best get your car booked in to the workshop to be checked over before the winter sets in.
 
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I have a 1.0 TSI engine in my 2022 Active. I also struggle to make a standing start smoothly. My guess is that the turbo kicks-in before I would usually change gear. It's my first turbocharged petrol car, so I'm hoping I will eventually master it.
 
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